Okay, so lets get going and stick with your boy, Lamarck, just for a sec. Thyroid hormones then get into the brain and they turn on certain neural chemical signals. CARL ZIMMER: He was mighty skeptical. I got these genes from somewhere, but I kind of feel like she was a surrogate, like she carried me for my real mom. Radiolab is on YouTube! Okay, you want to say bye? And the incredible thing is, those marks stick around. SAM KEAN: It was this struggle for a few years. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: I think that's where Lamarck's ideas can be woven in and make some sense. We actually sent our friend, Pejk Malinovski, to the archives in Stockholm to check it out. Brain disease. The team that creates each episode, including hosts Jad Abumrad and Robert Krulwich, are master storytellers. JAD: So I guess you could say to yourself, "Seven out of eight of these kids did all right?". This is what's called the slow growth period. To fellow named Jean-Baptiste Pierre Antoine de Monet, chevalier de Lamarck. JAD: If they see methyl groups sitting on that bit of DNA, they are pissed. That's really impressive. I just saw them as child abusers. JAD: Even if it helps, it's horrifying. You dont really say it to yourself that way, but yeah. JAD: How do these simple little traits get passed forward? That is a bad way to start a kid's life but that's just the beginning of the kid's life. I could have turned out like some of the other kids. VERONICA ZIMMER: My name is Veronica Zimmer. OLOV BYGREN: So they didn't starve to death. That tongue is doing something to the DNA. Yes. This is Radiolab. JAD: Or did I somehow learn that? Well, there was an expert on reptiles named G. Kingsley Noble. I wonder. JAD: If the genes are the bottom floor, then this layer on top is sometimes called the epigenome and that thing can change based on your experiences. SAM KEAN: He was known for going around and giving, what he called, his big show lectures, where he would wow whole audiences of people. I had asked for a newborn, so when the social worker called me, she said, "I have this cute little baby girl for you but she's eight months old. JAD: Because while you might have a lot of influence, you know, genetically speaking, over your kids and their kids, you don't seem to have a lot of control. If you were a boy in verkalix between the ages of 9 and 12 years old, that's the window, 9 to 12, you're a boy, and then we have one of those terribly rough winters, and you're eating much less than normal. See, this is the story of science that doesn't get told. If they see methyl groups sitting on that bit of DNA, they are pissed. Sample Page; ; The kingdom archive. Darwin's theory would have said, you know, 90% of the toads are going to die. Michael and Frances looked inside the brains of these rats and what they saw was that the rats who had been licked a lot as babies, they had more stuff in their head. How was this woman allowed", BARBARA HARRIS: "To walk into the hospital and drop off a damaged baby and just walk away with no consequences?". Basically, the midwife toad has a strange habit for toads. And so, you could only see one nuptial pad, and it all comes down to thisand all of that was just about to fall apart. From pneumonia. That doesn't matter. JAD: [laughs] Youre just just judo, that's all this is. Visited Kammerer's lab when Kammerer wasn't there. This is real physical-chemical interaction between what's going on in the environment and what's going on with the DNA. All rights reserved. PAT: And that's when things would start to get out of control. They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. PAT: It would be wrong to assume the women Barbara talks about on TV [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: These women don't just have one and two babies. PAT: That's really impressive. Full transcript: Radiolab co-host Jad Abumrad on Recode Media The new season of More Perfect, a spinoff show from Radiolab, began airing Oct. 2. You know, you've got all these chemicals around. We have experts even in very specific fields of study, so you will definitely find a writer who can manage your order. Visit our website terms of use at www.wnyc.org for further information. We are working to provide transcripts for as much of our programming as we can over time. And um BARBARA HARRIS: I had asked for a newborn, so when the social worker called me, she said, "I have this cute little baby girl for you but she's eight months old. PAT: So by now it's 1994, and Barbara is thinking PAT: You know? But here's what I did not know about DNA. You don't think that they should have their children back?]. And so, they bring MICHAEL MEANEY: A lot of friends to the party. Telling some genes to turn off now, other genes to turn on. Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. And they had more. ROBERT: [laughs] We now know that thats not the case. ROBERT: But, this hour were gonna fight this sort of sad sack feeling of inevitability and impotence. CARL ZIMMER: And in1923, he actually comes to England. ROBERT: Do you know anything about the other four? This is nice and quiet. Then World War One came and that disrupted everything. I have to be creative.". Right below the headlines says, "Scientist's great discovery which may change us all.". That doesn't matter. TRANSCRIPTS. I mean, the idea that they could be constrained by their DNA, that maybe one of us gave them a bit of DNA thats gonna hold them back? SAM KEAN: If you have a starving daddy, it turns out that the baby actually gets some sort of health benefit. Stretching got into the baby. PAT: Have you ever had someone call or write you and say that they regret their decision? This is the verkalix church parish record. And I just felt like it was in one of those moments that contains everything that's good about us as people. CARL ZIMMER: This second channel of heredity. And Destiny was in the other room, sleeping or something, I'm not sure. What does that mean, he was an idiot? ROBERT: Which, when you think about it, it has a very Lamarckian flavor. So that's fun. PAT: But she says she doesn't feel that way anymore. And she's a complete nut. _. Radiolab is on YouTube! Listen Feb 10, 2023 Bliss When did you last shout from happiness? That's it. All these chemicals racing by crashing into it, sticking, and one of the bits that gets covered up is that little bit that makes the proteins that create a maternal instinct. DESTINY HARRIS: Kick it to him. Birth mother's name was actually the same as me, so, Barbara. Okay, and then I just had to accept it. This great. There were four girls and Barbara and Destiny told me that a few years ago they found three of them and they all either were in college or had finished college. Were less prone to diabetes. We all know this, that there are cycles of abuse or whatever. ], [ARCHIVAL Clip, News: This could mean sterilization, it could mean getting an IUD.]. Suddenly you're marked. And that number, by the way, has grown a lot. This is nice and quiet. BARBARA HARRIS: Light bothered him, noise bothered him. He thought that you could kind of engineer societies by changing the environment. BARBARA HARRIS: And I knew that the only way I was going to get a daughter was if I went and became a foster parent and asked for one. OLOV BYGREN: It was very interesting discovery. What they decided to do first was to try to figure out which rat was which, which meant, interestingly, counting all the legs. ROBERT: They won't grow much on the outside, but on the inside OLOV BYGREN: That is the time where the sperms are developing. LATIF: And as of 11:01 a.m. on Tuesday, when were recording this, we have not broken the show. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: You know, you've got all these chemicals around. You are not God. We had an expression here, "Dig where you stand." JAD: It's writer, Sam Kean again, and here's, he says, what you need to know about the midwife toad. When Kammerer published his results initially, a bunch of scientists immediately began to say "Wait a minute, hold on here, it would be nice if life was like that but life isn't like that. Around 1908, he started publishing all of these results. They have six, seven, eight, ten, fourteen.]. Here's what Olov says he found in the data. BARBARA HARRIS: Barbara Harris. Then she goes, "Oh wait, I didn't give birth to you. And Destiny says she doesn't really care DESTINY HARRIS: I got these genes from somewhere, but I kind of feel like she was a surrogate, like she carried me for my real mom. And as of 11:01 a.m. on Tuesday, when were recording this, we have not broken the show. A little village? He'd fall asleep and just wake up screaming. LULU: A really good radiolab about this called Inheritance. And again, Barbara thinks, "Come on, but if this little girl is here, she should be with her brother and sister. Radiolab 50.3K subscribers Subscribe 29 1.5K views 6 months ago On this episode, the case that pushed one Supreme Court justice to a nervous breakdown, brought a boiling feud to a head, and. According to Frances, it's not just sitting up there perfectly preserved, it's in the middle of the cell, it's crowded. At this really marvelous place called the Vivarium. If you start smoking when you're 10, 11 something like that, you end up having children with more problems. OLOV BYGREN: Well, for cardiovascular disease JAD: Olov told us, take heart disease. I don't like to upset people. CARL ZIMMER: The right hand had been cut off for microscopic slides. JAD: Its an idea thats been kicking around for me since my kids were born. To build these terrariums and aquariums and stock them with animals. Plus, find other cool things we did in the past like miniseries, music videos, short films and animations, behind-the-scenes features, Radiolab live shows, and more. ROBERT: You cant say that. That was amazing. Barbara Harris says she's convinced more than a dozen women], Have accepted her offer to be sterilized in return for money.]. If you're a starving boy between 9 to 12 years old, now it doesn't matter a whole lot what happens to you after this, your grandchildren will have one-quarter the risk of heart disease. ROBERT: Thats what Darwin says, you cant. JAD: People can't just will themselves into a more perfect form. Knock it right off the DNA. When Emil gets to be eight, I'm cutting him off. SAM KEAN: Because it would reflect badly on the Soviet state. I mean, youre just youre saying a lot of things that are really impressive. SAM KEAN: It does, it does make kind of a folk sense. ROBERT: So what is the licking doing then? So thats the reason, of course, that we work with rats because we can get inside the brain. More of this particular protein. LYNN PALTROW: I think I was really horrified and terrified. by Nolan Moore. JAD: You got your good parents and your bad parents. fact checked by Jamie Frater. Last I heard she was living on the streets in LA. In pictures, he has that, you know, that crazy Einstein fuzzy hair thing. When Emil gets to be eight, I'm cutting him off. In this episode, originally aired in 2012,we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations.Support Radiolab by becoming a member ofThe Labtoday. Nobody's arguing that women should do drugs when they're pregnant. It's only the mechanisms are not so clear. And at a time when you're not making the best decisions anyway. So then over the next 70 some odd years, Lamarck basically became the poster boy for, like, the big dumb idea, the idea that you want to believe in but that you know isn't true. Your boys will first grow taller and taller for the next few years, and when they get to be about 9, 10 years old, they're going to stop growing just for a few years. When Kammerer published his results initially, a bunch of scientists immediately began to say CARL ZIMMER: "Wait a minute, hold on here, it would be nice if life was like that but life isn't like that. One-fourth? Get personalized recommendations, and learn where to watch across hundreds of streaming providers. So they can grab onto the female and hold tight while they're mating. ROBERT: Rewrite their their blueprint? What do I know? I'm Sam Kean's dad. Your boys will first grow taller and taller for the next few years, and when they get to be about 9, 10 years old, they're going to stop growing just for a few years. I mean, yes, I might get a great family, but I might not. And eventually, over the millenia, what youd get, is a creature with a very long neck. In this episode, originally aired in 2012, we put nature and nurture on a collision course and discover how outside forces can find a way inside us, and change not just our hearts and minds, but the basic biological blueprint that we pass on to future generations. I think all parents do this, is that you slip into this Lamarckian delusion that What you do with your kids can somehow rewrite all of that. I dont know. This, of course, is Destiny. Sincerely, Jennifer.". And Barbara is not offering that. I have to be creative.". Okay, well of them, don't really know what happened to her. Move on to the next cage, yes, no? How was this woman allowed", "To walk into the hospital and drop off a damaged baby and just walk away with no consequences?". Anyways, God bless you. And even though they look basically nothing alike. Harris says her program, children requiring a caring community, or CRACK], Can prevent thousands of unwanted births to drug-addicted women. I mean, youre just youre saying a lot of things that are really impressive. You're obviously a great mom, but that feels cold to me. In any case, what they saw at the end of all this counting wasWell, first of all, what they saw was this pattern that rat pups who got licked a lot as babies, when they grew up, they licked their babies a lot and the rat pups who didn't get licked a lot, when they grew up, they didn't lick their babies. PAT: Which I find kind of hard to believe but, then again, I must have read at least 100 news articles as I was reporting this story. It's only the mechanisms are not so clear. She's not offering treatment, she's not offering counseling, and there are programs that do that. How much of you will echo into the future and how much of you won't? ROBERT: Including a particular amphibian that plays a very big part in this story. You can't change your DNA. This was a really radical place at the time because you have to remember that people studying animals up till now, they were basically studying preserved specimens, and so on. But it failed. Well, yep, that is so true. ROBERT: Frankly, this makes being 9, 10, 11, 12 like a rather crucial. Or is it? Copyright 2022 New York Public Radio. This whole toad thing, to the Darwinian faction, it didn't scan really. ROBERT: Are you near the Arctic Circle or OLOV BYGREN: My home village was 10 miles North of polar circle. JAD: Because here's the thing, the churches up in verkalix kept incredibly detailed records. My name is Jean Kean. That's how we ended up with four of them. And when he examined it, he noticed that there was a syringe hole there. A few years later, there'd be a harsh winter. That is a bad way to start a kid's life but that's just the beginning of the kid's life. The neural chemical signal that gets activated during licking, is serotonin. The results are there. They both say that they actually often forget that they're not biologically related. That was amazing. She and I snuck away from the children into her office. Live shows were first offered in 2008. And eventually, over the millenia, what youd get, is a creature with a very long neck. SAM KEAN: That was the implication, except Kammerer tried to defend himself by saying CARL ZIMMER: "Do you think I'm a Dummkopf, or an idiot, because that's what I would have to be if I left a forgery with ink standing around openly in the laboratory where so many of my enemies would have entry?". And this idea won him a lot of fans, including, not surprisingly, the Soviets. Even if it helps, it's horrifying. Most toads, he says, love to stay in the water. Like, mine are bigger, you know." ROBERT: So then the one that's in trouble, so thats one of one of eight? BARBARA HARRIS: He wasn't a little happy baby. The show is known for innovative sound design, smashing information into music. [laughs] We now know that thats not the case. And, you know, there was kind of antisemitism growing at this time, so he thought that someone had framed him, and six weeks after Nobel published his results in Nature, Kammerer sent a letter to Moscow. He was miserable to look at. DESTINY HARRIS: Are you going to kick it? And so, you could only see one nuptial pad, and it all comes down to thisand all of that was just about to fall apart. You can't see that on the radio but, hey, it's a fact of life. You mean, if you had a starving grandfather, you would be a healthier boy for the because you had a starving grandfather? He thought that because theyre swinging hammers all day, they got big bulky muscles, and then theyd pass the muscles to their children. She's somewhere, but it's not good from what we've heard. Could you just tell us what you are doing now? Barbara tried to get a law passed requiring just that. We'll just get one more.". We ended up talking to the guy who did the work. People can't just will themselves into a more perfect form. It's a little odd, actually. [chuckles]. 2K views almost 2 years ago 48:23 Love it or hate it, the freedom to say obnoxious and subversive things is the quintessence of what makes America America. [ARCHIVAL Clip, Panel: Well, I mean, Hitler thought that if you were Jewish, that you had given up the right to be a mother and hed sterilize people as well. We'll just get one more.". JAD: So its like grandpa's struggle is jumping forward and giving me a leg up? Who now works at Columbia University. But what exactly Maybe you can explain this to me, Robert. And in 1989, when the story we're telling now started, she was living in California, in Orange County. Except he had one. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: Like you said, when you were in your addiction like she is], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: I didn't say I'm God. They have found very similar effects for smoking, for instance. Radiolab is on YouTube! They willed the neck to get longer, the muscles to get bigger. Because we had already had to upgrade from a car to a van, from a condo to a home. FRANCES CHAMPAGNE: He had no idea about DNA. SAM KEAN: And at a time when you're not making the best decisions anyway. She filled out the forms went BARBARA HARRIS: Through all the training that we had to do and first aid, fingerprinted and had a background check done. LATIF: Its so good that it makes you not want to trash the house, you know what I mean? Also, thanks to Carl Zimmer whose latest is Evolution: Making Sense of Life. I know! The right hand had been cut off for microscopic slides. One parent stretching isnt going to do anything, see thats the bummer of Darwinian evolution. ROBERT: You wonder, where did that come from? ROBERT: Telling some genes to turn off now, other genes to turn on. Birth mother's name was actually the same as me, so, Barbara. JAD: So we're going to leave you with a story from our producer, Pat Walters, about one woman's radical JAD: A few months ago, Pat made his way down in North Carolina, to a small suburb outside of Charlotte to visit this family. Thats like, I mean, that seems like a thing that would be frightening. All jokes aside. If you've already had a kid, you can be sterilized. [laughs[ So yeah, it's embarrassing, but I believe everything happens for a reason. Methyl groups are pretty sticky, they're hard to get off. And he would basically turn the heat way, way up in these aquariums until they had to go underwater. We neuter them.". But luckily for the Vivarium and for our story, they had a guy. And, I mean, I have straight A's and I'm making it work. JAD: I think all parents do this, is that you slip into this Lamarckian delusion that JAD: What you do with your kids can somehow rewrite all of that. Yes. Higher frequencies of heart attacks. PAT: But at that point just two of the six boys were living at home, Brian and Rodney. He thought it worked with humans, too. The critical part of this Is that all these changes wake up this little gang of proteins. So some scientists began to ask Kammerer if they could look at his toads. We'll just be honest. ], [ARCHIVAL CLIP, BARBARA HARRIS: Probably racist.]. LULU: So far. JAD: It's off-limits. SAM KEAN: You feel kind of hemmed in by what your grandfather did? So now, the genes can make the proteins that make the rats a good mom? Just a little. I just saw them as child abusers. PEJK MALINOVSKI: Okay, I'm here. And thats wrong [laughs].Thats not how it works. I mean that's a different kind of odds, but its DESTINY HARRIS: Hi, this is Destiny Harris. CARL ZIMMER: You know, the fact is that taking care of animals, trying to keep them alive in a building is not an easy thing, especially if it's 1903. Its just That's just how I've always looked at it. CARL ZIMMER: And when it came time to mate, the males and the females, they would mate in the water. So some scientists began to ask Kammerer if they could look at his toads. So he actually went to Vienna. PAT WALTERS: Mamaw was the one I'd come to see. Just sing. Nice, cool water. BARBARA HARRIS: After I've gotten to know so many of the women. JAD: Or does it get passed on such a deep level that doesn't even require teaching? We spay them. Radiolab is a radio program broadcast on public radio stations in the United States, and a podcast available internationally, both produced by WNYC.Hosted by Jad Abumrad, Latif Nasser and Lulu Miller, each episode focuses on a topic of a scientific and philosophical nature, through stories, interviews, and thought experiments.. Find ratings and reviews for the newest movie and TV shows. Oh my goodness. They both say that they actually often forget that they're not biologically related. Because while you might have a lot of influence, you know, genetically speaking, over your kids and their kids, you don't seem to have a lot of control. Nobody has a right to do that to a baby. She actually emailed me afterwards and adjusted that number down a couple hundred. ROBERT: Is that what you're saying? There was a newspaper called The Daily Express and they have these headlines that come out. How old are your boys right now? CARL ZIMMER: He's 22, 23, and he already had this reputation for being amazing at keeping animals alive, that otherwise would just die. So this whole debate, two totally different ways of seeing life. The show is nationally syndicated and is available as a podcast. That's a lot of people. Because you begin with a mother's lick that ends up with a deep, deep change in the baby, not just the good, warm, fuzzy feeling, but a fundamental shift in who that baby is, and who that baby will be. This was a really radical place at the time because you have to remember that people studying animals up till now, they were basically studying preserved specimens, and so on. Never mind, you're stuck with small boobies." PAT: Because when a woman uses heroin while she's pregnant, the fetus gets hooked on it too. All jokes aside. Well, this is it! PAT: A year later, she gets another call. Full disclosure, she's Robert's sister's partner. Just until they hatch and then 'til they go off. So, of course the folks at the Vivarium asked him. You've got these toads who hate water. like they could be whistling six tables over in a restaurant and he would turn around and be like, "Stop that," it was like it was scraping his very nerves. We talked to her for a little while and PAT: At a certain point the social worker pulls out a stack of papers. 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