It depends on which version of the 4-3. After all, at Pry's introductory presser he noted he cut his teeth as a graduate assistant in the mid-90s under Foster. Period. Call 1-800-GAMBLER. I would argue we had bad match-ups of speed vs. speed. The Hopkins brothers, Maddy, and looking back at Barry Booker, Jonathan Lewis, and others all sort of fit that mold. The one-gap 4-3 is a little more similar to the Hokies in that each defensive front 7 has gap responsibility, but in the NFL almost never does the radical stunting that the Hokies perform (the NFL lines are good enough to adjust and drive the stunting linemen off the ball.). Shop fresh Hokies gear at TKP sponsor Homefield. He's as genuine as they come. The Corners cheat deeper in this coverage at 7-9 yds, so they can rarely show Press man pre-snap when 2-Robber is the call. Likewise, by no longer asking the Rover to man up against speedy slot receivers to the wide side of the field allows linebacker / safety type athletes like Aaron Rouse to be successful at that position. Think DeAndre McDaniel. The defensive call in combination with the personnel group establishes the specific pass coverage responsibilities for the defense. On the other side, teams could get favorable running game match-ups by running to the boundary. The adjustment from one set to the other depends on the alignment of the Rover. Not adjusted to the offensive formation. It really is an outlier as far as defenses, as much as Paul Johnson's wishbone is on offense. French on the Bench is a new series of posts that will take a closer look at the theory, fundamentals, and scheme of Tech's offense and defense. Really great stuff. Anytime you see the mike backer dropping back, it is change up defense hoping the QB throws to a spot without seeing the mike. So obviously if it doesn't work the scheme breaks down because it also means not being able to pressure the offense and the QB into poor decisions. In a robber coverage, the safeties actually come forward at the snap while the corners bail out to a deep third. Game situation includes things like score, wind / weather conditions and time remaining on the clock. The amount of zone and safe coverages they play really is determined by the ability of the line, mike, and backer to stop the run. Bud Foster called this scheme his "attack defense" but the base alignments were 8 man front's following the model of the famed Buddy Ryan 46 defense used by the Bears and Eagles in the 80's. Backers and Mikes must be adept at timing blitzes and taking on blocks. All of those adjustments are made in real time by the players on the field. We will look at the Hokies pass defense in more detail in a later post. Alas, so was Jonathan Allen, and it looks like he will be playing out of position in Alabama. Foster used a simple solution. Note that with no receivers split to the boundary, the Rover will rotate up to the line of scrimmage and align as a linebacker on the boundary side. The strongside End, called a "Stud", aligns over the inside of the TE (7 technique) and the other DE aligns in a 5-technique. Will having a healthy and complete team be enough? Stanford understands that the whip most often will line up to the weak side of the defense. Tackle: The Tackle (Derrick Hopkins) lines up as a 3 technique, outside eye of the backside guard. 8 Ohio State with schemes used by Defensive Coordinator Bud Foster,. In this installment of the series, we will cover the general concepts of Bud Fosters defensive scheme, including how offensive personnel and formation impact defensive alignments and responsibilities. What do you mean by "radical stunting"? I'd like to see those guys like McCray playing more than thatespecially down the stretch with Clemson, fsu, and Miamifresh legs all round are a gOod thing.. McCray played more against UVA and Michigan than I thought he did, and he had some good pass rush (but he was usually second in the race behind another defender.). '+,,-/4443.4444444444 Learn how to identity the Bear and understand how it accomplishes its goal. The architect of Tech's famed Lunch Pail Defense, Foster was the longest continually tenured FBS assistant coach at the same school at the time of his retirement in 2019. What VT plays most against pro-style teams is Inverted Cover 2 Robber, but the deep cover guys are the Cornerbacks, not the safeties. You cannot play straight M2M all the time. Its heavy on blitzes from those two hybrid players. Body positioning, angle of alignment, depth of alignment, how to come off the snap (use of hands, proper footwork, etc), reading each individual key, reacting properly to those keys, proper pursuit angle, tackling technique.that is just a short list of things that the players must focus on correctly as a unit for the defense to be successful on any given play. In the diagram, Whitley (who the coaches called "the rover" last year) is lined up to the twins side, and he motions back to the middle of the field while Exum (who was the "free safety" last year) rotates up towards the line with the motion. All Hokie, All the Time. So opposing coaches will tell a kid he'll have a better shot of making it to the NFL if he plays in a "NFL-style" 4-3. I will touch on this more when I write my column on the secondary play, but I think because Hokies safeties have been victimized in man coverage so much, that Foster is looking at his safeties having less run support responsibility and being better at coverage, hence the change of putting converted corners at safety. Ideally, the Stud end will be 2 yards deep into the backfield. Bud Foster defenses know how to get after the quarterback. Looking forward to future articles. To counter these offensive trends, Bud Foster made some adjustments to the base defense after the 2003 season. Seems to me it would be a waste of time unless they are going to use him at DE. Great stuff as always French. Combining elements from each scheme is what gives the 4-2-5 its versatility. The tackle will cross the face of the guard and the center, and fill the 2 gap, originally vacated by the Nose. The zone run requires each offensive lineman to block the gap to the playside, moving along the line of scrimmage and maintaining contact for as long as possible with the first defender that crosses their face. Defensive linemen must be able to stunt and slant while maintaining leverage. Damn that's a turning point in both Clemson and VTs program recently. If our defense is designed to "funnel" the ball carrier to certain positions I could see some recruits not liking that. this is the best stuff and why i love TKP .. i know that teams use our schemes against us in recruiting but i love how the giants and their smaller, more athletic dline core, is being looked at by coach bud. Flowers, Hall, and Green have been starters. Exactly like Clemson this year. I remember seeing our defensive philosophy torched about ten years ago. As mentioned earlier in this article, the coaches decided to make these adjustments because offenses had schemed some things to specifically attack Techs 8-man front base defense with more 3-4 wide receiver sets and more spread formations. For that reason, some teams found success by running weak side out of those spread formations. Accordingly, Bud Foster abandoned the 8 man front look, and turned to the "Field Strong" formation described in the link as their base defense. Thekeyplay.com is not affiliated with Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University. Young guy like Ekanem and Farley, based on film, are perfect fits. A student manager then uses the sign board to communicate the personnel group to the players on the field. a !1AQa"q2B#$Rb34rC%Scs5&DTdEt6UeuF'Vfv7GWgw(8HXhx )9IYiy And this. When they play 46 front, its mostly man/man, because its a pressure front like the Under we use. The boundary, field, and rover all have pass coverage. Whip: The Whip (Kyle Fuller) lines up wide, but well to the inside of the slot. Did Jim Harbaugh out scheme us, did we execute poorly, or were we outmanned? You have heard the laundry list of coverage terms, but what do they mean? I have told anyone who would listen that I didn't like having Collins moved inside, and that if they did move him inside, he needed to get upfield and disrupt the full back/QB mesh point. Engleberger wasn't a bust. Often, a zone play to the right (which on a Madden diagram looks like it would go to the 6 gap) will actually cut back almost over the center. His upside is higher than Collins, but Collins is a much more instinctual player at this point. The players also aligned differently. Terms at draftkings.com/sportsbook. Though the philosophy was. *U# N)qQ/y(H"hVt kf@^L;,R?P0;|v44 JFC=zYh AWEBYl5I[.X@v6UQV@_msY)Ng1KhZ/Y)va+XsM =_ewrr\|2Q)/zN]N}q_r{f-wvw)1,Z )$fy86g8@ZtqI,dX& ^twn*g$b{xoa.WwDWZflk1g,JIEfPO[h-H( ,AdYp[fuNP&SuhZs`um%?HSpQ1Y. The "nickel" linebackers have almost no pass defense responsibility, and instead are used in a variety of blitz packages designed to outman the offensive line and force the quarterback to make quick throws, where the designed hidden coverages in the secondary await to pick off the pass. A London Fletcher or Brian Urlacher type linebacker would not be a good fit for the Hokies. He started 79 games over an 8 year career. While the Hokies were able to win, Collins was a shell of himself until the bowl game after Georgia Tech, and I am convinced that was because he was so beat up. They are looking at the QB and reading his actions without letting the #1 outside WR get past. Damn shame if you ask me. Thanks! Even more bedeviling to teams that use pro-style running games, Foster uses a huge variety of stunts, hard slants, and linebacker blitzes to "funnel" the ball carrier right into an unblocked defensive player. TechSideline.com (a.k.a. Bud Foster used the Bear defense to suffocate the Buckeyes' run game in 2014. And you can quote me on that shit!" Frenchgreat new addition to TKP! And with JGW on the edge, he had to be. That was generally the wide side of the field as well, so the Backer or Rover had to cover a faster, quicker player out in open space. Also, stud 6'6 265 DE's who want to play in the NFL, not tie up linemen so linebackers make plays. As mentioned earlier, that led to man-to-man match-ups of a linebacker or Rover against that third and fourth wide receiver. The first number reflects the number of running backs and the second number reflects the number of tight ends. Ideally he can maintain leverage without being driven downfield. First of all, they had a GREAT offensive line that was able to block at angles which cut off the stunts from Virginia Tech linebackers. If you have any questions, I will be sure to answer to answer them in the comments. The below diagram lays out a typical Hokie run blitz utilized to stop the zone run to the strong side out of an I formation. Eventually, the kids who see the NFL in their future realize that going to such a school hurts their chances. More to come in my next post. If NFL type DT's wouldn't fit BF's scheme then what's the use of trying to recruit guys like an Andrew Brown? Not sure Tahj Boyd's skills are of the same caliber but he took advantage of us as well. Virginia Tech's defense is in good hands with Bud Foster at the controls Skip to main . In other words, without changing the base personnel, it was a scheme that could adjust play to play from a run stopping 8-in-the-box set to a strong pass stopping set with five defensive backs (Whip, Rover, Field Corner, Boundary Corner, Free Safety). From this base set, the Hokies can play any number of man and zone coverages while still getting to an 8-man front on any play by rotating the Rover up closer to the line of scrimmage just prior to the snap. My thought is that the linebackers/DBs adjusted or started sitting back to provide passing support, this slowed pressure at the line, which allowed for easier running. Can we get this thread retitled - "A Look Back at a Look Back to . So we have a basic definition for each of the eleven puzzle pieces. The formation is twins wide, so the passing strength is heavy to the wide side of the field. I was getting confused reading the comments and didn't see they were from 5 years and 12 months ago. There are a number of factors that the coaches consider when setting the defense from play to play. Winslow and the defensive end (JR. Collins) to an X stunt, with Collins going outside and JWG taking the inside (or #5) gap. As the coaches like to say, it is important that their minds do not tie up their feet. Against an 8-man front, it was difficult for offenses to establish the run because there was generally one defender unaccounted for in the blocking scheme. Its a bit like a Tampa 2 defense, where the MLB drops back deeper in zone over the middle with 2 safeties behind, except that here youre dropping the FS down instead of backing up the MLB. The defensive calls will be different on 2nd and three versus 3rd and nine. The pre-snap look is quite often Cover 4 because of this. Because its a 4-4 defense that has to be able to handle the spread offense at times, it needs some rather special players at some of the hybrid LB spots. As covered in Part 1, the Tech defense aligns based on ball position relative to the hash marks. AZ, CO, CT, IL, IN, IA, KS, LA, (select parishes), MD, MI, NH, NJ, NY, OH, OR, PA, TN, VA, WV, WY, CA-ONT only.Eligibility restrictions apply. Suddenly the gap is open, and the back has a nice hole. By handing off in this way, the defenders do not tip the coverage. Fosters defense is always going to be well-coached, and being well-coached puts players where they need to be, but you still need some talent to beat better OLs even if the defenders are where they need to be. Either way we'll have 3 starting quality DT. What about that sign board with numbers like 21 or 11? Odds & lines subject to change. Oh, and lets not forget the secret weapon. They know where to be and they know how to adjust more quickly to formation shifts and motion. UNC had those guys, FSU has those guys, and that is about it in the SEC. When things went well, a Hokie game featured numerous sacks, tackles for losses, interceptions, and the band wearing out the theme from Empire Strikes Back. In a traditional one gap 4-3 defense, each player in the front seven has the gap in front of them with few exceptions, with examples being a variety of stunts and run blitzes that are run in small proportion to the base calls. Virginia Techs defense is a unique one in major college football in that it is very much an older style of defense descended from the Gap 8 and Wide Tackle 6. Size, strength, and explosiveness were huge factors in that variance. From all of us at The Key Play, get off the bench and in the game. I broke the 4th wall of telestration. Also, against Ace and Doubles sets, the coverage basically changes into 1/4-1/4-1/2 Cover 3. This allows the players to react instinctively and play with more confidence. James Anderson is the only Hokie alumni who is a starter in the front 7 of an NFL team. For example, a 21 personnel group is two running backs, one tight end, and two wide receivers. (Dave Knachel/Virginia Tech athletics) Article It's a season of transition. The wide side is called the field and the short side is called the boundary. Because of how it is designed, it is still strong with Safeties as run-gap fillers off the edges, but because of that they are susceptible to play-action moreso than a true C2 squad. You can't develop an NFL caliber lineman. In an 8-man front, the Rover will rotate up closer to the line of scrimmage and align as the fourth linebacker. View All Discussions French on the Bench , "David doesn't even fart. Field G front. TSL) is an independent publication that is in no way affiliated with or sponsored by Virginia Tech or the Virginia Tech Athletic Department. With a 2-high safety base set, the Hokies can play a lot of different zone coverages (while still playing man coverage when they want), preventing offenses from dictating match-ups with their personnel groups and formations. Bud Foster received national recognition for the way his Bear defense surprised and shut down Urban Meyer's vaunted spread rushing attack in 2014. They tie up the center and both guards, allowing the middle linebacker to go unblocked sideline to sideline. Meanwhile, the defensive linemen must be quick enough and flexible enough to slant heavily (sometimes 2 gaps) each way, which lends itself to short, stocky defensive tackles whocan get to a spot then hold their gap responsibility. That is really the key to the front. I have no doubt this works against the Hokies in recruiting, but Foster also has archetypes he recruits to for his players. All original material and images are copyrighted by TechSideline.com and may not be reused or reprinted without permission. 1) I have seen a ton of schemes and I can't remember one that repeatedly asks the defensive tackles to stunt across multiple gaps and still maintain gap fits. I saw that and knew we were in trouble. Love the in-depth analysis. 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